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西方哲学的真相:中国之外再无哲学

楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
③Dima Vorobiev I worked for Soviet propaganda Answered Jan 31
The ability of the Chinese for tribal self-organization no matter what is astounding to me as a Russian. No matter where they are they coagulate into tightly-knit communities with a fabulous level of self-policing.

作为一个俄罗斯人,中国人抱团、自组织能力令我折服。不论身处何方,他们总是能够凝结众人组成具备出色自我监管水平的紧密型社会群体。
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23


楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
(上)为什么日本料理比中国餐饮有更大的国际影响力?

quora网友:随着一个国家经济实力和势力范围的扩大,人们对其包括烹饪艺术在内的文化的接受程度也在增加,这就是为什么当日本餐馆在几十年前出现的时候,它很快就受到欢迎,因为日本人在80年代很富裕,他们的购物狂潮使许多西方人把所有日本的东西都与高质量联系在一起,在20世纪90年代和21世纪初......
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
Why has Japanese food had moreinternational influence than Chinese food?

为什么日本料理比中国餐饮有更大的国际影响力?
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
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Chara Chan, J-pop fan for 20 years.

Chara Chan,20年日本流行乐粉丝

Answered Feb 15

2月15日回复

The acceptance of a culture, including itsculinary art, grows with its economic prowess and spheres of influence. That’swhy when the Japanese restaurants came on scene decades ago, it gainedpopularity very soon, since Japanese were flush with money in the 80s and theirshopping spree made many Westerners associate everything Japanese with highquality. One thing embarrassing for Chinese overseas was being mistaken forJapanese in the 90s and 2000s.

随着一个国家经济实力和势力范围的扩大,人们对其包括烹饪艺术在内的文化的接受程度也在增加,这就是为什么当日本餐馆在几十年前出现的时候,它很快就受到欢迎,因为日本人在80年代很富裕,他们的购物狂潮使许多西方人把所有日本的东西都与高质量联系在一起,在20世纪90年代和21世纪初,中国海外华人会被误认为是日本人,这让他们感到尴尬。
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23


楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
Mr. Chow and his daughter

周先生和他的女儿
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
Relative to their European counterparts,the Americans are more receptive to exotic things. As I saw in some socialmedia, the Americans diverge geographically. Generally speaking, those inCalifornia, under the influence of their Chinese co-workers, learn toappreciate the tingling sensation on their tongue from Sichuan peppercorn. But,the southerners and northerners having lower exposure to Chinese still have anaversion to certain unique mouthfeel and aroma from real Chinese food. Forinstance, some American teenagers who went to my students’ home as exchangestudents found the local Sichuan snacks unappetizing and ended up eating friedchicken in the fast food restaurant everyday.

相对于他们的欧洲老乡,美国人更容易接受外来事物,我在一些社交媒体上看到,不同地理位置的美国人还是不一样的,一般来说,加利福尼亚的人们在中国同事的影响下,学会了欣赏四川胡椒带给他们的舌头刺痛感,但是,与中国人接触较少的南方人和北方人仍然对真正的中国食物独特的口感和香味感到厌恶,例如,一些以交换生身份来到我学生家的美国青少年认为当地的四川小吃令人倒胃口,最后每天都在快餐店吃炸鸡。
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楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
Kylin fish

麒麟鱼



楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
tofu pudding made of chicken

鸡豆花(鸡肉做的豆腐布丁)

pigeon with bean dregs

豆渣鸽脯

The above dishes can only impress those whounderstand and admire our traditional culture.

以上的菜肴只会给那些了解和欣赏我们传统文化的人留下深刻印象。

That's why the Japanese shot this film inmy province in 1983.

这就是为什么1983年日本人在我们省拍摄这部纪录片。

Anton Taiki, Director (1991-present)

Anton Taiki,总监(1991- 至今)
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23


楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
International recognition of Japanesecuisine and food culture:

日本料理和饮食文化的国际认可:

as of 2018, Japan is the country with themost starred Michelin restaurants overtaking France.

2018年,日本超过法国,成为米其林星级餐厅最多的国家。

Mekko chart showing Michelin starrestaurants by country

按国家分列的米其林星级餐厅图表
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楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
December 2013: "Washoku, traditionaldietary cultures of the Japanese, notably for the celebration of New Year"was added to UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage, bringing the number ofJapanese assets listed on UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage list to 22.

2013年12月: 和食,日本的传统饮食文化,尤其是为了庆祝新年,被加入到联合国教科文组织的非物质文化遗产名录,使列入联合国教科文组织非物质文化遗产名录的日本遗产数量达到22个。

Ben Smith, Lived in China for 6 months;learning Chinese; follow the politics

本 • 史密斯,在中国生活了6个月; 学 中文; 关注政治

Some other answers rejected the premise ofthe question and said that actually Chinese food has more influence.

其他一些答案否定了这个问题的前提,认为实际上中国餐饮更有影响力。
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楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
China being such a large country - with apopulation about 12x Japan’s - Chinese immigrants are just more numerous, allover the world! And Japanese cuisine arrived in the West more recently and ithas probably never been quite as widespread. Paradoxically, that might meanthat it gets a higher status - precisely because it’s rarer. Also, mostly,people just know sushi, and sushi is raw or freshly cooked fish and so it isvery important that it’s good quality food (or you might get sick!). So it’sbeen a bit difficult to do cheap sushi. In a sense, while it doesn’t have moreinfluence than Chinese food, it might have more prestige.

中国是一个如此大的国家——人口是日本的12倍——中国移民只会更多,遍布全世界! 日本料理最近才来到西方,可能也从未像现在这样被广泛传播, 矛盾的是,这可能也意味着它获得了更高的地位——因为它更为罕见,而且,大多数情况下,对日本料理人们只知道寿司,寿司是生的或新鲜烹制的鱼,所以质量好的食物非常重要(否则你可能会生病!),所以想做便宜的寿司有点困难, 从某种意义上说,虽然它没有中国餐饮那么大的影响力,但它可能更有声望。

In the last few decades, there’s been a newwave of Chinese cuisines that more fully reflect the full diversity of Chinesefoods. Firstly, the Hong Kong diaspora brought dim sum (or yum cha) to theWest.

在过去的几十年里,中国出现了一股新的烹饪风潮,这股风潮更加充分地反映了中国食品的多样性,首先,香港移民把点心(或称"饮茶")带到了西方。

Then, as migration from Taiwan and thenmainland China picked up, you see an even wider variety of different Chinesecuisines in the West. To name just a few of my favorites: hot pot, Chinese BBQ,dumplings, roujiamo, and just about every sort of regional cuisine you canimagine from China is now available in Western cities with Chinese disapora.

然后,随着来自台湾和大陆的移民开始增多,你会在西方看到更多种类的中国菜肴,举几个我最喜欢的: 火锅、中式烧烤、饺子、肉夹馍,以及几乎所有你能想象到的来自中国的地方美食,现在都可以在西方城市买到。
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楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
till, I’d never have discovered these wonderfulfoods myself if I hadn’t actually visited China and sought those places outfirst! I suspect most people in the West who’ve never been to China, aren’tfrom there, and don’t have family from Asia have also not really encounteredChinese food beyond those ubiquitous cheap places that have been in the Westfor more than a century.

尽管如此,如果我没有真正去过中国,没有先去那些地方,我也不会发现这些美味的食物!大多数没有去过中国的西方人,他们本身不是来自中国,大多数也没有来自亚洲的家人,所以除了那些在西方已经存在了一个多世纪的无处不在的廉价小餐馆,我怀疑他们根本没有真正接触过中国餐饮。

Give Chinese food a decade or two, and morepeople will discover the wider variety of Chinese cuisines now availableworldwide. It is delicious and I think it’ll really take off!

给中国餐饮十年或二十年,更多的人会更广泛的了解现在已经遍布世界各地的中国菜,它味道好极了,我想一定会大卖的!
楼主:楚天鸿烈  时间:2021-03-27 18:16:23
(下)为什么日本料理比中国餐饮有更大的国际影响力? [美国媒体]
Why has Japanese food had more international influence than Chinese food?

quora网友:我不同意这个问题的前提, 中国餐饮的国际影响力远远超过日本料理。首先,中国餐饮对日本料理的影响远远超过日本料理对中国餐饮的影响, "中国菜"基本上是日本三大菜系之一,与日本料理和受西方影响的菜系并驾齐驱......

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